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PD GTA is a place built on deals...like it or not thats just the way it is
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Steamer a couple of things come to mind
Why not develop some higher end clients by buying the sales manager or owner of a furniture store or carpet store lunch. You build the relationship and also should get higher end customers. People in these situations are not comodity driven they are quality driven.

The other thing is that you could work closer to some of the better realtors. I think most of them are flakes but all you need is a few good ones. No doubt you are in a tough market.
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Thats where I think you are wrong Douguy...a lot of cleaners out here do good work...and it all depends on the need for money.

I know a guy with a portable machine...his goal is to make $500 a week
I've seen his work I know he does a good job...
 
he'll do 5 rooms hall and steps for $75  why???? because he doesn't need to make more.
 
he's not low balling he is just priced way less....upstealing isn't a part of his program it's just good honest cleaning..
 
Doug now that you have move to the front of the class...let me ask you this.....
 
How many cleaners from the GTA do you actually know???
 
there only a few on this board...I think I only know of Lee...would you call Lee a crook????
 
I think someone along the way has done you some wrong douguy we are not all rip off artist.
 
My room rate is not a loss leader...that is the chunck of the money I make.....I charge 12.50 per room for gard and 5 dollar per room for deo..
 
I ask I don't push.
 
and don't think the customers don't push back...they are always looking for deals even to last last minute..
 
WAKE UP!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27/January/2007 at 2:22pm
mr. Steamer alot of companies with your city mentality of working cheap to try a trick people into hireing them so they can rip them off as soon as they get in the door just don't work here. We charge a fair price for services rendered. I don't recall anywhere ever posting what I make or attempt to make. I just don't know why people have to low ball just to scam hard working people out of their hard earned money? You and I both know the room price is a lost leader. Just be up front and honest that may help?
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Doug you don't have much competition in your market...maybe 5 companys total????

there are thousand here in the GTA...and we are all fighting for market share...customers that are willing to pay are far and few.
 
Douguy I trying to teach you but I don't think you can see the chalk board way in the back of the class...move to the front
 
I would love to charge more 40 to 50 dollars a room, but those days are done in the GTA
 
Cleaning Giants like Cleanol are no more and are facing bankurpcy because their prices are way to high.
 
Getting the good jobs comes down to who you know...eating lunch with captains of industry....being a member of a country club.
 
I know a guy in toronto that cleans a 50,000 sq ft gentlemens club, why?? because he and the director play hockey together.
 
we can BLINDLY say to charge more, but you have to look at your individual market to determine that.
 
Cleanol $40
sears $28 per room
bay $19 per room
canadian steam $20 per room
Can Steam$20
 
Mr Steamer $25
 
Dougay you can  post your stupid comments all you want, but the truth is if you weren't in Goderich you'd most likely be out of business.
 
I hate to hear the bull about high end customer......they are just as cheap
 
I clean from 25,000 sq ft homes to 1,00 sq ft...and to tell you the truth I make more off the so called poor.
 
You can't dictate the market unless you have a monopoly
 
Yes I'm RANTING!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
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I won't work for cheap. Near the end of the month the renters start to call and I rarely get them. Don't want them either because they often screw up their schedules at move out. Truck won't roll for under $100.
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Steamer as short as I maybe I would never work for the peanuts you work for? People who pay peanuts you get monkeys? But that's the market you want to fight for?
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Needs a ladder to get on to the couch
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why doug...is it because you come up short?
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Don't let steamer know just how much people can make cleaning?
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Sometimes even the experienced get caught

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That was a couch ordered from Sears and I don't think it was custom. It had bleed through on the underside of the cushions and she had to hide them by flipping them under. There was also a transfer from the material label on to the cushion as well. 3 rooms for $79 and a couch for $59 kind of guy. He has been in business for 20 years too.


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custom furniture. name stiched in. Kool
But on the other hand is there's golden band?
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No way. Better take a course, like cleanex said your going to end up owning some furniture. Make sure you spot check your solutions and acid rinse.

Doing upholstery without any formal training is very risky. Let me give you an example.
Look at this couch I recently cleaned and it was cleaned previously by a "coupon company". This is a 4 year old couch that has NOT been recovered purchased at Sears and if you don't understand the implications of this picture then GO TAKE A COURSE.


By the way, I checked for these conditions and discovered this before I cleaned.

    
    

Edited by pilediver - 26/January/2007 at 12:33pm
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