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   Hey Guys just want some feed back....
100,000 homes worth of bonuspak flyers for $1700.00 a mailing... good or bad deal??? 5 mailing min...???
would you do it???

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MR. STEAMER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List True Patriot Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549	Post Options Post Reply Quote MR. STEAMER Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Advertising Posted: 02/February/2005 at 4:03pm
	Hey Guys just want some feed back.... 100,000 homes worth of bonuspak flyers for $1700.00 a mailing... good or bad deal??? 5 mailing min...??? would you do it???
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Superglide Ken Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Grand Potentate SGK Joined: 17/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4868	Post Options Post Reply Quote Superglide Ken Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02/February/2005 at 4:08pm
	Too much. Offer them less. We get that many offered to us here in Calgary for around a penny each($1000), not the 1.7 cents they are offering you.
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MR. STEAMER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List True Patriot Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549	Post Options Post Reply Quote MR. STEAMER Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02/February/2005 at 4:12pm
	Thanks for the input SGK... I have a meeting with the lady tomorrow... I'll try but 1.7 cents was pretty low... they do all the artwork the printing and the suffing and the mailing... I just sign the checks
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doug Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List King of the One Liners Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711	Post Options Post Reply Quote doug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02/February/2005 at 4:58pm
	Art work? Supply your own art work we usually do so it is consistant. You don't want every cleaner's ad to look the same.
	Just My opinion

MR. STEAMER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List True Patriot Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549	Post Options Post Reply Quote MR. STEAMER Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02/February/2005 at 5:12pm
	but what do you think about the price doug???
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doug Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List King of the One Liners Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711	Post Options Post Reply Quote doug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02/February/2005 at 5:14pm
	Mr. Steamer: I am in a very small area I wouild have to pay that much for a circulation of quarter of that many house holds.
	Just My opinion

MR. STEAMER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List True Patriot Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549	Post Options Post Reply Quote MR. STEAMER Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02/February/2005 at 5:20pm
	Now I remember why I sub... 100, 000 homes is nothing...I need 500,00 homes to compete... I'll have to do at least the whole year so I might get brand recognition..... it takes dollars
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doug Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List King of the One Liners Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711	Post Options Post Reply Quote doug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02/February/2005 at 5:50pm
	Rome wasn't built in a day. Target market.
	Just My opinion

MR. STEAMER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List True Patriot Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549	Post Options Post Reply Quote MR. STEAMER Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02/February/2005 at 11:31pm
	My own area... where no where will take me longer than 15 min to get to.. Thats why I started with 100,000 homes all with a 15min radius....
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Steaminpile Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Master Carpet Cleaner Joined: 04/February/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1155	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steaminpile Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/February/2005 at 12:47am
	so you're a sub contractor and you have to pay for their advertising??? sounds like a good deal Edited by Steaminpile

MR. STEAMER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List True Patriot Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549	Post Options Post Reply Quote MR. STEAMER Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/February/2005 at 7:05am
	Steamin... it's not for them it's for me, going to make a go of it this season. I don't know why because I get all the Sears jobs in my area, both of my trucks work everyday....There are no other subs in my area to compete with.. I make great money and nothing is more than 30 mins from my home... now I'm looking at advertising to only 1/5th of the homes in my area for myself. The advertising cost are high, this was the reason I started subbing in the first place... had to put in another phone line, might even have to get someone to answer the phone... is it worth it????? Let me ask you O/O's do you pull enough every month to cover your advertising????and eat and sleep in peace
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doug Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List King of the One Liners Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711	Post Options Post Reply Quote doug Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/February/2005 at 7:31am
	Mr. Steamer: I am not sure but I think there is kind of a rule of thumb for advertising. It may be 10% of gross. I am not exactly sure. Can you not kind of use yours sears data base as a start?
	Just My opinion

MR. STEAMER Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List True Patriot Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549	Post Options Post Reply Quote MR. STEAMER Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/February/2005 at 8:47am
	They more than make it back...everytime... but it's name "Sears" they get calls left right and center once a mailing goes out with a coupon.. There are people giving away services at half the price and still will never get the calls that Sears or ServiceMaster get... It's the name they trust... I have a great plan but they still might not call me.... no matter how attractive my ad looks or what bonus specials I run. I can use my database... but I don't want to target there customers, right away they'll be looking for a way cheaper price... Do you know how many times a day those a-hole customers approach me to do a whole house for 20 or 30 bucks and cancel the sears call.. They all figure we get paid 7 bucks an hour...lol
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nightrider Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Marketing Master Joined: 12/March/2004 Status: Offline Points: 4666	Post Options Post Reply Quote nightrider Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/February/2005 at 11:05am
	If you you would charge what Sears pays you as a sub, and ad a little personality to your service, you can send Sears packing in a matter of a few years. Get a partner with 2 trucks, now you have 4, then 5, then 6 then 8........soon you will be able to buy Kleenkuip and kick all of us off of here. Nightrider

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