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    Posted: 11/March/2006 at 11:18pm
LOL Senor Patel, not quite!
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did you not loose the clean off at winter fest

no match for a Vortex in the right hands I heard

 

 

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OP only guy, LOL, there are a lot of OP only guys and they do very well! LOL

You can hose off your ass, if you want, but if you don't wipe it, you will still have a bit of a sh*tty problem Chris..

 

Ax to the Cimex and commercial, well the 20" Brute get up to 5000 square feet an hour on maintenance cleaning.

Our largest market currently is selling brutes to Cimex users. They are DIFFERENT machines, Cimex is a great scrubber, and does a great job, so is the brute, the Brute has the added advantage of being able to run cotton pads and remove a lot of soil as well as encap at high speeds.

As to residential carpets, here is what happened in Santa Cruz this month.:

 

Posted By Tony Wheelwright on 3/7/2006 at 8:16 PM

I was there Steve and here is what I saw on the first beige moderatly soiled Nylon carpet:

1/ Both halves were pre-vacuumed.

This is a step frequently done by vlm'ers and rarely by TM operators, IMO

2/ John went first and did his OP thing for literally a 4 minutes, using only 1 Pad which turned a medium gray on both sides.
John, thought that he was just competing with a wand (like most tech work) hooked up to one of those unmentionable TM's. Carpet looked good and was damp to touch. Terry B gave it a swipe with a clean white cotton towel and got almost no transfer.

3/ Mike the proceeds to do what very few tm techs do - he presprayed the carpet & spent about 3 minutes scrubbing it in with a Rotary and a Red buffing Pad.

4/ Mike then went over this carpet a few times with his unmentionable brand tm "Vortex" and a few more dry strokes than most would do - 4 minutes.

5/ Mike then put a dry cotton Pad on his Rotary and Post Padded (again something few actually do) using both sides of the Pad for another 3 minutes.
Terry gave it a swipe with a clean white cotton towel and got almost no transfer.

Conclusion, the carpet was pulled outside where visually there was no diference and bsides dried quickly.

Mike took longer but he charges more than John does. John's set up & break down was way faster, his equipment is cheaper but not as versatile re Furniture and pressure washing etc.

I'm the proud owner of the world's most reliable TM - Genesis 59 and one of John's Brute's with no agenda. Both guys are honerable gents and a credit to the industry.
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77748,

  • Residential Thick Carpets - Extraction
  • Commercially - Bonnet for Speed
  • Commercially - Pad OP for Quality
  • Commercially - Cimex for Quality & Speed (Encap)

You may wish to check out the Chem-Dry guys in the Bay area and see if they are up to date with Chem-Dry methods and equipment.

The original Chem-Dry system was simple Rotary Synthetic Bonnet with their patented pre-spray which is basically now what Chemspec call D.F.C.

When Dupont put into print that to maintain a Dupont carpet warranty your carpet required extraction at least every 18 months.

This made Chem-Dry react and offer or force their franchise holders to upgrade to high-efficient portables with modified RX-20 units. This method would be hard to equal with a below average portable.

Some dealers switched. Some still bonnet. But most charge more than the average going rates. Proves advertising works.

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What's going on in your area with the Home Depot, Chem-Dry merge? I have heard nothing as of yet if any in Toronto.
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To add to Dennis Conners analogy..

The more mechanical hand action and the more paper you use the cleaner it becomes. So OP is not like Bonnet Cleaning where you can get away with using one or two Bonnets.

You will require using serious numbers of cotton pads to clean with. Especially in a very soiled area.



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Opie is okay for light maintaince cleaning...would you want to always wipe your ass after you sh*t, but never take a shower to really wash it and get it clean???

 

womens issues too...just imagine!

 

HWE gets it clean....wipe between cleanings...Opie is an interm process, at best!

 

There is an opie only guy in the valley...a really odd sort of a guy, I think it goes with the territory!

 

 



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He is retired it is Ninja Wands Line. Regarding all these OP's , Activators and ect.   To be the man you have to beat the man with an OP   Cause thats the bottom line cause Ninja Wand said so

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HEy! isnt that Bret "THe Hitman" Hart's line?!
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You are the man Ninja ! Even though you own a unit you are out to find out as well what is the best there is, best there was, and best there ever will be. Warrior! 

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But Ted, The CCS Machine arent really "larger" its only 17". The only thing that is stronger is the motor.  The Cimex would be the ticket for large comm. jobs and not for residential.

Im gonna drop by my Supply house next week  and try my hand on the Hruby (Activator) and see for myself.

Steaminpile, John always welcome hands on comparasion...He doesnt just exspect you believe what he says.  Of course if what he tell people is not true...he'll lose all credibility.

BTW Ted, Cimex is an Encap Monster...BUt, it doesnt do OP



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There is nothing wrong with the Activator. It is especially well priced and well made from what our customers tell us.

It is being redesigned and manufacturing is in dry dock until mid April.

As said before if you are looking for faster production in larger areas then look at Padmans larger units or Cimex for even faster and easier cleaning.
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so the manufacturer/salesman would never steer you away from what he sells?
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According to Jonh Guerkink, The Activator is basically a Hruby (under a different name). The Hruby is a knockoff of the OLD CCS op machines and it's slower compared to the current units availiable..

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what's wrong with the activator?
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