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tomh 
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 Posted: 07/March/2007 at 9:44am |
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John, great work! by the way, you never slam , take the log out of your eye.
Aris, here at kleenkuip they have a good selection of machines and can advise you on any kind of equipment that would work in your line of cleaning you do.
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CleanEvo
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Posted: 07/March/2007 at 11:32am |
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Thanks Tom...Are you the maker of the HOS?
Padman claims that his sytem oscilates 40% faster than your system...because of thsi his system is faster and cleaners better. What are your comments regarding this claim? Just trying to figure out the best system for me. Thanks 
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PadMan
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Posted: 07/March/2007 at 5:46pm |
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Yep Tom is involved in the Hruby, the ones who copied our blue machine and now has come out with a new one.
You are correct CleanEvo, our competitors do not build High Speed Oscillators and clean much slower.
Seems Tom thinks I stepped on his toes here, I guess he doesn't know I have been a poster here on Kleenkuip since its conception.
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 07/March/2007 at 7:42pm |
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well he's selling the machines way way less that you are Padman...
easy sell.....
I myself bought a cimex :)
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Posted: 07/March/2007 at 8:27pm |
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With 40% less oscillation, they SHOULD be a lot cheaper, think about it, 40% more oscillation works out to more than 1/2 again as much carpet cleaned in the same time span. I could make more at .20 cents a foot than they could at .30 cents a foot.
Or instead of a 400 dollar day, I can do over 600 dollars in the same time. Everyone gets what they pay for in this business. So hom many days work does it take to make up the little difference in the price of the machines? |
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Posted: 07/March/2007 at 9:30pm |
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Thanks Padman...I'm trying one of your machines later this month with Con...looking forward to it...if it works as well as he says...you can expect another order.
Also, in regards to the question above...If you had just one OP machine to use...which would it be, Conqueror, Breeze or Brute? Edited by CleanEvo - 07/March/2007 at 9:32pm |
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Posted: 07/March/2007 at 9:59pm |
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For $7,000...I rather get a decent used Truckmount than JOhn's "BUsiness package".
Im speakin from experience....I have both a TM and John's Business package. SO, This is just my Opinion. |
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BonnetMan
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Posted: 07/March/2007 at 10:02pm |
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The pictures speak for themselves. How come HWE guys never post pics?
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Posted: 07/March/2007 at 10:04pm |
an hour here or there doesn't really matter as long as you get paid. it really makes no difference unless you business is so busy you're getting over run
if we both have $400 jobs and it's the only job we both have for the day....If I spend an hour more big deal Edited by MR. STEAMER - 07/March/2007 at 10:05pm |
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Posted: 07/March/2007 at 11:32pm |
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Most of us padders are WAY to busy to just fart around, 4-6 homes a day and large commercial jobs.
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Posted: 08/March/2007 at 12:48am |
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that sure is alot of laundry...LOL
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Posted: 08/March/2007 at 1:22am |
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John,
 Slam again and again....... Did you no that CCS and Rite-way carpet cleaning started together in 1974. Ask your dad if you can't remmmberrrr!!!. How can two family business start together with ten O.P. machines each, and one of the business is copying the other? John you need to do RESEARCH before you start talking about thing you have no clue about. John, you will never hear a bad thing about you or your company from me or my son on any board. We will always respect any business and your business also and the success you have had. Your dad is one of the GREAT ONES IN THIS BUSINESS and so are you, but I will correct you when you step out of line in what you are saying about us and any other company. I hope you will do the same if we step out of line. Correction John We are not the SLOW HRUBY,THAT'S BEEN GONE A LONG TIME AGO. PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!Clean Eve answer to your question: John has a good point on oscillation, not enough oscillation or oribtal would not clean as good and with more oscillation, it would do a better job. If you have to much oscillation it could be to aggressive and could damage the carpet. John please correct me if I'm wrong.
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MR. STEAMER
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Posted: 08/March/2007 at 8:48am |
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Padman doesn't build the machines anyway.....I'm sure if someone was going to copy it they would take apart the machine bolt by bolt. Padman thinks he has something magic in his units. ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING CAN BE COPIED |
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PadMan
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Posted: 08/March/2007 at 9:21am |
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John,
Slam again and again....... Did you no that CCS and Rite-way carpet cleaning started together in 1974. Ask your dad if you can't remmmberrrr!!!. How can two family business start together with ten O.P. machines each, and one of the business is copying the other? SLAM? Facts are slamming? Those 10 machines didn't work until they were rebuilt, they couldn't do the job, they broke down over and over and we got an aircraft machinist to build parts for us. We took an idea and built a machine from it, sure several parts stayed the same, but we didn't copy anything. John you need to do RESEARCH before you start talking about thing you have no clue about. John, you will never hear a bad thing about you or your company from me or my son on any board. We will always respect any business and your business also and the success you have had. Your dad is one of the GREAT ONES IN THIS BUSINESS and so are you, but I will correct you when you step out of line in what you are saying about us and any other company. I hope you will do the same if we step out of line. Now tell everyone you didn't COPY the blue machine.! Correction John We are not the SLOW HRUBY,THAT'S BEEN GONE A LONG TIME AGO. PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!! I have done it, and larger diameters helps, but bigger motors do not a faster machine make. Clean Eve answer to your question: John has a good point on oscillation, not enough oscillation or oribtal would not clean as good and with more oscillation, it would do a better job. If you have to much oscillation it could be to aggressive and could damage the carpet. John please correct me if I'm wrong. More oscillation is EASIER on the carpet, and faster cleaning, now tell me why that is so, Tom. What you see as slamming, I see as correcting the huge misconceptions and downright lies many have told about the workings of OP machines. I have not disrespected you or your son, but I have put the facts out there Tom. I do now have my machines built for me, I did it myself for many years, I still work on designing them though and the machines built for us are for our standards and specifications. Edited by PadMan - 08/March/2007 at 9:23am |
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