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    Posted: 21/February/2008 at 7:30pm
At the moment I operate a carpet cleaning business, and run with the bonett method...

I am thinking of going with a rotary drymaster, but realise that this is a completly different animal, so I was hoping you could answer some questions...

what length hose do you guys use, are you able to clean all houses,big and small.

Do you carry the water on board, how much do you need, what is the set up, and how do you handle the dirty water?

Does it really dry as quickley as they say?How long on average, for a lightly soiled room?

Does it clean as well as they say, any examples of its quality?

Have any of you used it with a portable extractor?Which one?

For those who use a truck mount, which one?Rate it 1-10

Have any of you used a different product, how do they compare?

Any pros and cons>??

Any other advice...

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Didn't you already post this?
Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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Oooh, double-post. Uh,%20uh,%20uh

Anyway, my supplier says the problem with a Drimaster and a porty is the greater flow of solution, which mean having to empty more often. I don't know from personal experience.
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Sorry for the double post, just trying to make sure I get as much info as possible.

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Well I spent the few days talking with, or trying to talk to the guys at hydramaster/drymaster. The head office would not sell to me, a polite but unhelpfull man there called Darren said they would not sell to me unless I was purchising 6 or 7 machines.They passed me on to one of their distributors, a guy called Scott Shannon, who I called three times over the past few days, and who has not returned my calls.I spoke to another guy called Carlos, who is also a distributor, and did not seem to intrested in selling to me....Given that I am looking to purchase 10/12 machines over the next 1/2 years, you would think they would be asking me for business, not me begging them.

Anyways I did speak with a VERY helpfull guy in Canada, he is the franchise manager fo a company called citrus-o, and he was REALLY helpfull.He knew there was little chance of selling to me, given that I am based in southern California, but still, he spent half an hour on the phone with me explaining the pros and cons of the rotary dri master, and the reasons why they prefear truck mounts over portable extractors, the failings of both systems and the benifits of both.

I think I will probably go with the rotary drimaster, and the cds or boxxer truck mounts.Hook up a 50ft hose, and keep a wand on board, just in case.

I will hold on to the advance pacesetter just in case I need to do some jobs where I cannot use the truck mount.

So guys, what do ya think, will this system do the job?
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Well I would first mention that I use 100 foot on almost every job.  So you will need more than 50 more like 150-200.  The rotary drimaster is a good tool on carpet that is already very clean.  If you are going to spend the money I would buy a more versitile piece of equipment like the rotovac 360.  Its lighter, its cheaper, it drys almost as fast. it does a much deeper and better cleaning job, and it can also do tile for only $300, if you ever to decide to.  Rx-20s rock, but they are cumbersome in a residence and leave the carpet wetter.  If you still want a drimaster I would check ebay.  I see them go for under a thousand all the time.  Worse case buy three used for the price of one new one.  You may also want to ask yourself why everyone is selling them. You will need a wand to cut around vents and sharp corners that are dirty and to get closer to woodwork and that goes with any rotary system.  What ever you decide make sure to wheel and deal with those dealers.  You would be surprised how low the prices can get if you push hard enough.

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Fuzz, what would be a decent price for the 360, and what would be a good extractor to go with it, one that could do the steam cleaning, including driveways etc.

Also what doi you think of  claims that different glides will reduce dry time to 2 hours/

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as far as i know rotovac told me a new unit is 2200. some else said on here that they got one for 1500.??? maybe phone them and find out for sure.888-768-6822.
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Hi Bub
The folks at roto will sell you one for $2000 and if you give them a hard time they will ship it for free.  You cant find them used anywhere yet and the ones I have seen are about $1500. Buy new.  I have never used it with my portable, but I hear it's fine at over 200psi.  I run it at 450psi on my truck but thats with alot more vac.  Prochem makes great very expensive truckmounts, but 15,000 is only 350 or so a month at five years.  Hydramaster has some great stuff and warranties.  I have never used one, but I hear good things.  Dont buy a dual wand machine at first unless you plan to do commercial right away regardless of what the sales guy says. Buy a rx-20 for commercial, they are magical on restaurant commercial.  Do OP cleaning on most office commercial.

Buy a $300 power washer to wash driveways, don't use your $10,000 truckmount!  Your literally deprecating it by the minute.

Glides work on wands.  Yes.  Very much so.  On the rotovac 360.  I have no idea but it usually drys in 2-3 hours anyway.  Unless the place is really messed up bad and in that case I will tell them in advance it's gonna be wet a little longer.

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What part of SoCal?
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Rotovac...Love it!
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O k,

so lets say I go with the rotovac.

Get 200 ft hose, what extractor should I choose, if its to be a truck mount.

What is the easiest unit to install, and what offers excellent suction,pressure, with heat, without breaking the bank??

One other question that may seem silly, but I clean a local gym, once a month.They have large carpet tiles....how will the rotovac handle them, and as I work a one man crew, and this job is after hours, how do I secure the premises, when I have a hose running in the door, and no way to lock it??

Has anyone owned a rotovac long term, do they know of any mantinince issues.Do they function ok on household power? FUZZ ???

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Hello Bub, there is my opinion about rotovac 360 after two years using this tool with portbles machines. The best combo with porty: try to get a machine w/big solution and recovery tanks (12/16 gallons avoid fill and dump constantly because water flow is hig, 3 jets on the head) dual 3 stages vaccums in parallel (for this tool you need a really good air flow) at least 200 psi and run no more if is posible than 50 ft of hose. If you can get heat ok, but w/porty no big deal, they can not keep so hot with this water flow. Be ready to groom each job after you finish, those "o rings marks" to many customers don't like it. As soon as you go w/your rotovac you are going to love it. Very versatile machine (tile and grout). Until now (almost two years on the road no problems at all. Maintenance is easy). Of course is working in any house power or comercial job, draws a very few amps. The last thing is if you have the chance to replace the glides for the new ones Teflon glides you are in the big game. I'm still waitting for mines (no stock right now). Just my opinion. I hope this can help you, good luck, Pablo.-      
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A truckmount purchase is a big decision.  If your coming from orbital pad I would go portable to start.  This will give a better feel for what kind of results you should be expecting and what chems, tools etc...  You may find that you like the OP better, some folks do.  I carry the option of OP for offices or buildings and it works great, however not nearly as impressive looking and sounding.  The main downside of portables are the cords causing hassles, like breakers to go or tripping on them all day.  I would imagine running three plug sources (2 port, 1 roto) in a home or business would be huge pain.  Also they don't tend to carry the heat as well as most truckmounts.  Not to mention the limited pressure and pain of carrying it around.  The main downside to a truckmount is the cost.  The convenience can't be beat but they cost a ton to own and run and maintain and repair and the vehicle costs  and gas and whatever, the list goes on.  Then you got your wife yelling at you every time something breaks, bla bla money, bla bla you be spending,  bla bla trip to Europe.... Hum Anyway.

As far as installation goes, any slide-in is fairly easy.  Bolt the components down, a hose here or there, and a gas tap (optional on some) and your done.  If you buy a new one most places will install it for free. 

As far as brands go.  I mentioned Hydramaster or Prochem earlier, they are both distributed by Interlink and they have some great mechanics that work on anything they sell you.  Brand X wise,  I like steambrite or Blue Baron.  They are both made by a bunch of old carpet cleaners that know their stuff, those guys are really knowledgeable and are more than happy to try and talk you into a new machine for several thousand less than the name brands.  The main downside (very important downside) is going to be servicing the machine.  Unless you live where they live, your SOL.  You have to fix it yourself or take it to an interlink at $50-$80 per hour.  Ouch, there goes the money you saved.  Which ever way you go, keep in mind that if you want a big tree, carry a small axe.  Or is it walk softly and carry a big stick?

Fuzz

P.S. It should be fine on carpet tiles.  If it tends to buck a little, just turn down the speed.


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