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   Zero KELVIN  
   
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     Posted: 24/February/2005 at 5:26pm | 
 
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    acne meds will also take the colour out of olefin and polyester 
 
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     Posted: 24/February/2005 at 6:36pm | 
 
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   If it's a polyprop carpet, you'll not be able to re-dye it... according
to the company here in Adelaide, South Australia that does all my spot
touch-ups.  He's been doing it for 20 years, and I kinda trust him
at this stage from the help he's given me in the past.  Someone
please post if they feel that I'm mis-guided. 
   
  If it's a polyprop carpet though... I'd be surprised if your problem area is bleach. Re-test the carpet.... re-question the client. Dunno about polyester though. I've never asked. Which are you talking about anyway... olifin or polyester? Good luck Allen  | 
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   Zero KELVIN  
   
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     Posted: 24/February/2005 at 9:03pm | 
 
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    both can be fixed 
 
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     Posted: 24/February/2005 at 9:48pm | 
 
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   Zero Kelvin you started this topic with a question and then you answered it. This had never been done before. You get a Zero mark for that. 
    
   
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     Posted: 24/February/2005 at 11:44pm | 
 
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    what answer??? they can both be fixed???? yeah use a match...  | 
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     Posted: 25/February/2005 at 6:02am | 
 
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    you could try the dyes they use for cars. it comes in a spray can. you may not find a color to match. i've only found a match once and it wasn't 100%. but dyeing isn't perfect it only makes it better. make sure the client knows that before you start. 
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     nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
     
   
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     Posted: 25/February/2005 at 3:32pm | 
 
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   Greg, 
   
  Although you can aim to lessen the visual impact of a stain with what you suggest... a good carpet dye job takes time to properly colour-match. I believe Mr. Zero KELVIN insinuated that the problem could be FIXED... which is different (IMHO) to the suggestion you gave. Now though... I'm still not convinced that bleach will take the colour out of polyprop. I've got a sample somewhere, so I may have a go at it. I'd also be interested in how our colleague Mr. Kelvin proposes to fix this problem (if indeed I can re-create it in the first place). I don't believe that I have any polyester carpet though. I do have an 'enjo' cloth that's not bleachable.... does that count? Any more info??? Cheers, Allen  | 
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     Posted: 26/February/2005 at 7:26am | 
 
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    surroundings, i don't think KZ will be able to repair it, that is why i suggested the spray dye. acid dyes only work on nylon and wool, as everyone knows, and yes a good dye takes time but even then it is not alwas perfect. sometimes you can only, as you said lessen the visual impact. but sometime par is good enough.......( i'm thinking golf already ) 
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     Posted: 26/February/2005 at 2:11pm | 
 
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    Olefin (polypropylene) -- is the most stain-resistant of all fibers. And the least moisture absorbing of any fiber. When dyed at the manufacturing plant it is solution dyed, because it doesn't have dye sites. High ph cleaning chems won't harm this fibers. Also it has dying limitations, so your color selection will be limited. I wouldn't use it on high traffic areas, it has low resiliency. Polyester -- is difficult to dye and to stain. It will accept bright dye colors, has good abrasion resistance, and sure is easy to clean. I wouldn't use poly in high traffic areas. 
 
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     Posted: 26/February/2005 at 8:15pm | 
 
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   polyester is hard to clean 
   
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     Posted: 26/February/2005 at 9:26pm | 
 
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   It shouldn't be had to clean because it's hard to stain. Are you sure it's poly? How are you testing the fiber? It's up there with olefin as a stain-resist fiber. What chems are you using? Having the right chem for this fiber makes it not so hard to clean. Sometimes all fibers are hard to clean. The right chem will make it easier on you.
    
   
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     Posted: 28/February/2005 at 6:59am | 
 
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   I suppose that the best that could be done without replacing a section
of this type of carpet is a 'close-enough-for-rock-N-roll' dye
substutute then?  I mention 'dye substitute' as it seems (from
what I've heard/read) that normal carpet dying techniques will not
properly adhere to the actual fibre? 
   
  If the customer is informed of this, and the colour matching is carefully attempted... then perhaps it is an option to be considered. Cheers, Allen  | 
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