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MR. STEAMER 
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 Topic: OP on staple fiberPosted: 13/April/2006 at 11:39pm |
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listen the leafs will make the play-offs....yeah right I've been using a hydroforce to prespray furniture for years....I dont expect it to work for anyone else...but it always works for me. it all depends on the cleaner...plain and simple |
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Ed Valentine
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Posted: 13/April/2006 at 12:59pm |
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GREAT Thread, Cleanex, and very, very true to! We all realize that there may be better machines in each category, better componentry, better innovations, designs, etc...in regards to equipment and cleaning agents. However, manytimes, one can put the exact same machine in two operators hands and get two opposite results. And, everyone of us whom have hired employees knows this to. When, for example, a manufacturer can satisfy 97% of their customers, and at the sametime, can not satisfy the other 3%, I can tell you the fault does not fall on the machine in almost every single case.
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cleanex
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Posted: 13/April/2006 at 12:49pm |
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I have been waiting for something like this to happen, you hear of guys using green and black floors pads on carpet, if that was the case in this instance than it is not the OP machine to blame, any rotary system could create the same damage. Cleaners have been causing damage to carpets for ever and ever , and they have used all of the cleaning methods available. Not that long ago on this board I read someone saying he puts bleach in his portable all the time, he may get away with it for years, but soon or later he will run into a problem. You read it all the time on these boards, people can't be happy with the way manufacturers make products, they need to start mixing two or three ingredients to make a better cleaner, and than coming screaming on these boards about what crappy products XYZ company makes. |
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Mr Singh
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Posted: 10/April/2006 at 11:43pm |
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should have used good old Indian cotton pads
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Posted: 10/April/2006 at 7:45pm |
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what the hell was the guy using SOS PADs???? it has to be a carpet defect |
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Posted: 10/April/2006 at 5:36pm |
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I think its more a combination of OP cleaning a product that isn't made to stand up to it. |
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cleanex
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Posted: 10/April/2006 at 4:29pm |
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O.K. now I get it. This is a cleaner problem and not carpet related. Hope the cleaner has insurance. So the question is, is it OP method problem or is it a inexperienced operator? |
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Posted: 10/April/2006 at 9:36am |
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Easy Don, as a guy who uses OP quite often I am now quite concerned and rethinking our systems. I think we will now only use OP on loop pile. |
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Posted: 10/April/2006 at 8:53am |
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MY question is HOW much damage could an OP do??????
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Posted: 10/April/2006 at 8:04am |
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Lee, none of my business, but why post this topic if you can't comment more? Is the problem the cleaner or was it carpet related? I gave up inspections as the mills paid me to get them off the hock, not solve the real problem.
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Posted: 09/April/2006 at 7:42pm |
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I would have to say Padman that it is very unlikely that you would get the same results with most carpets. As you well know all our trucks carry an OP and we just bought a giant box of pads from you. I wish I could comment more, however it would be out of line.
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Posted: 09/April/2006 at 4:09pm |
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Okay, I see. I've never personally dealt with someone who billed himself as a carpet inspector. But I did bring in a dye expert to look at a job I did that somehow resulted in bleach spots. He determined that something had gone onto the carpet previously, weakening the dye (in other words, not our fault). The customer was irked by this--finger pointing more in his direction, I guess. We just settled it. He still thought it must have been something we did.
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Posted: 09/April/2006 at 4:04pm |
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Exactly Doug, (this is not pointing at Lee at all) however many inspectors are mill whores, have a LOT of stories to tell concerning this.
Question is, did the cleaner do something wrong? Was the carpet built to standard? |
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Posted: 09/April/2006 at 3:56pm |
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Ted I dissagree. It is not the inspectors job to point the finger at anyone. It is the inspectors job to determine the problem. If the problem is a direct result of someone or something than so be it. But than again that's just me.
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