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    Posted: 24/February/2006 at 1:28am

Currently using a buffer with bonnet pads for dry cleaning. Which is better ?? OP ? Activator? or Cimex .

Looking to upgrade to one of these need something good for olefin carpet. Want to make the right decision the first time. Currently using green and white pads. Someone also said there is another better stripe pad?????



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DOnt have a "ACtivator" or the Cimex. BUt I do have a CCS Commercial Breeze OP .           ;           ;           ;           ;           ;           ;           ;           ;         

I started out with the Rotary and can definately say for a fact that OP provides more aggitation (due to the oscillation), is faster, and cleans better overall (But, I still use HWE for most of my Resi.). Also, Op is great for smaller Comm. jobs where the truckmount cant reach (I rather OP it than use a porty).

To my understanding, The cimex is great for BIG commercial jobs.

Maybe Ted will chime in on behalf of the Activator and let us in on the specs. and the productivity capability.

BTW, If you dont already know. You can go to www.ccsop.com to learn more about OP.

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Now the cimex that does not use rags right? Seen the rotary brushes on it. Kinda like the Activator right?
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77748,

Go to the bottom of any page on this forum and click the Encap link for a Cimex Encap video.

Yes it gives the agitation like the Activator but uses a fiber pad as opposed to a cotton pad. In my estimation offers more agitation and much faster productivity.

Most people can't get their head around the fact that it does not extract. At this point you must understand Encapsulation. Seems it can't be explained only enjoyed.

Especially the profits.

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Ted, Have you compared the Activator to any of the CCS OP machines??? Any difference between the two?? what size motor do you have on it??

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Let me see if I got this right!

Release it is your chemical and the punch can be used as a prespray if heavily soiled.

From what I see in the video the OP looks like it would pickup some serious traffic stains except it looks like alot more work with the terry towels. Need to find out more about the Cinemax and Activator I will say this they look impressive. I also wonder how they would work on residential high traffic areas . And If I am right when I am using a tm those traffic areas left behind are dirt. This new system looks like you are getting some serious scrubbing but the Tms have heat. Need to study more. Thanks for the info Carpetologist



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Yes...But with the Cimex you can do light-moderatly soiled I heard. Because the encap crystals can only hold so much (therefore good vacuuming is also essential).

But at least with a OP machine..You can use cotton pads to absorb alot of the soil instead of just scrubbing it ala Cimex.

I still use my TM waaaay more compared to OP.

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Do you run accross situations where you say damn you use the TM and you still see a traffic stain and felt you did the best you could but your not happy and then you pulled out the op just to see.  And what was your result!

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If the carpet was especially bad...I would combined both HWE+OP. f you use both, The result usually turns out fairly good.

 

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Old School

As I have learned you receive the ultimate carpet cleaning by having:

  • Heat
  • Mechanical Action
  • Chemicals
  • Dwell Time
  • High Pressure
  • High Suction

Not all systems can offer you all of the above attributes. Truckmounts with RX-20, Rotovac etc., seems to come the closest and yet 90% of truckmount cleaners leave out the mechanical action buy using hand wands only.

It seems that in the interest of speed we have given up serious mechanical action. Think of it as laundry. Nothing really happens until the wheel starts turning.

With OP and Cimex you are mechanically positioning all the fibers in a multitude of directions very rapidly. (In simple terms you are mechanically cleaning all sides of the fiber). This type of action does not take place with a standard rotary machine or wands.

Now where does all this released soil go?

For the answer you must understand Encapsulation Chemistry. To some it appears as an illusion. But seeing is believing.

For best results on your traffic areas use Steam Extraction. Then OP with Pad or Encap (or both). Preferably using an Encap product with Hydrogen Peroxide especially on lights and whites. This will allow a mild brightening and elevate any yellowing or browning that may take place from possible over-wetting.

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You would think the op would out clean them based on the terry towel agitation. Hey padman have ou used the Activator or Cimex. Has anyone had a chnace to try several of these and come up with an conclusion.

I want something that works want the best not second best.

Is it the terry towel ? Is it the Cimex or Activator or anything else.

Need to find something for commercial that works on residential that can clean the hell out of olefin.

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Sounds like CCS Commercial Breeze is what your looking for.

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What about the brute and the conqueror? Stairs need a different unit as well right?
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