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Jim Darling ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 159 |
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Diva I have watched and listened with great interest to what you and all of the others are saying about OP cleaning. Obviously you have had great success and regardless of what others think the bottom line is happy customers who are satisfied and want to call you back. There is, however, one issue that you need to be aware of. You make statements like: residue Free, Non Toxic, Biologically and Environment Friendly & Baby Safe. The last time i checked I have never seen any product from any manufacturer (apart from 1) that lists all of the ingredients so you have no basis upon which to say this. If the product you are using originates in the US then they are telling you next to nothing on the MSDS. If the manufacturer is telling you that this particular product is all of the things that they say it is - that's terrific. But who has independently certified this information. Without independant 3rd party verification all claims are totally meaningless - just marketing babbletrap and hype. The fact that you are happy with the performance of the product, system etc and have lots of happy customers is great. i would encourage you to continue down the path that you beleive in. But at the same time i would urge you to tone down anything related to what i haver explained above. The first time you run into a customer that wants scientific proof of these claims is the time that you just might be in trouble
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diva ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 03/September/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 130 |
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AND ALSO G-MONEY GOT THE .38 PER SQUARE FT ACOUNT! And last I check he wasn't a pretty woman!! LOL PAD DIVA NORTH |
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diva ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 03/September/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 130 |
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Oh and Just for the record STEAMER... I clean in my BIG, BLACK, DODGE, DURANGO!!! AND G-MONEY IN HIS VAN!!! DURING DOWN TIME WE SCOOT AROUND ON HIS GSXR-750 NOW THATS CHEEPER ON GAS!! Once again talking about things you don't know!! PAD DIVA NORTH |
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doug ![]() King of the One Liners ![]() Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711 |
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Mr. Steamer: Don't kid yourself I think it would fit.
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MR. STEAMER ![]() True Patriot ![]() Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549 |
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I will never understand this push for y'all to sell this OP..... I don't need the OP to do a good Job I just need me!!!!!!!! I'm probally the most requested Tech in all of the GTA(within my companies of course) Don't discount the power of my truck mount and the knowledge and professionalism that comes with it.....ME I never worry or nor am I scared.... I'm happy for your OP'ers but don't ram it down my throat please.... you clean with your Hyundia...it's cheaper on gas it's smaller it's quieter less emissions... I'll keep cleaning in my Cadilliac.... I love the roar of the engine..those nice sleek lines... the steam the comes from the wand I have never tried to ram my Steam Extraction system down anyones throat... it wouldn't fit |
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MR. STEAMER ![]() True Patriot ![]() Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549 |
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Diva you make me laugh....you go girl Only if a woman could become president or at least PM.... OP is something I don't want to be sold on... I guess I'll have to accept it on my own time... as for .38 cents per sq ft in the GTA with just an OP.....all I can say to that is ...Diva pretty women can sell anything...lololololol |
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PadMan ![]() Dr. Low Moisture ![]() http://ccsop.com Joined: 11/March/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1032 |
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You are right Greg, she is..
I do like her arguement on cleaning though, I understand so many being "afraid" of OP, because it is so different, however, for 31 years we have cleaned homes, apartments, stores, churches, country clubs,office buildings etc with NO problems at all, The arguement of "my area will or will not" simply won't work, we have this system in every type of demographic and while people may be afraid to try it, a new comer will have NO PROBELM setting up a biz with it.
The benefits, simply make it desirable to the customers, the fear is that of the cleaner, NOT the customers.
Great Posts Diva!! This gal is sharp, I told ya! |
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greg ![]() Journeyman ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/February/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 444 |
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diva, if padman isn't paying you, he should be, your good.
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nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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diva ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 03/September/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 130 |
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Regarging the corners... We get INTO the corners, you see we use a 17" machine and 25" pads the access fabric gets right into corners and edges dragging out all of the dirt. Also because of the extra fabric while cleaning the edges we are also wiping down the base boards where dust settles and scuff marks are left!!! Sort of an added bonus! A house socket is 15 amps and the OP around 11 amps NO POPPING NO TRIPPING CIRCUITS!!! Area Rugs YES we do those too. As long as your weight is on the rug it won't move while your cleaning it and it does tassle too!!! We have an OP stair machice which also does upholstery and we DO get the backs of the stairs HMMM... beautifully I might add! And the BULL EDGE of the stairs... clean as a whistle. AND DRY UNDER AN HOUR!! Our Customers constantly remark... WOW your already done?? It looks great, when can I walk on it?? When we say go ahead its already dry, they are BLOWN AWAY! This is one reason for so many referrals PEOPLE DON'T WANT YOU IN THEIR HOUSE ANY LONGER THAN YOU HAVE TO BE. ALSO the OP machine is so quite that we can carry on a conversation with our client while cleaning.This enables us to build a rapport with them and educate them as to why we use the method we do, and why it may cost a bit more. OH AND IF OP WAS IN YOUR DREAMS YOU WOULD WANT TO STAY ASLEEP INDEFINATELY. BECAUSE IN YOUR LA LA LAND OF SLUMBER YOU WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY, LESS BACK ACHE, LESS TOXIC HAZZARDESS CANCER CAUSING CHEMICALS IN YOUR SYSTEM AND HAPPY CUSTOMERS. SWEET DREAMS STEAMER....NEXT
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diva ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 03/September/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 130 |
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Time and time again I hear people on this board referring to OP as only for commercial. True we do have some rather large commercial jobs (thanks to OP) but, we like everybody else on this board like, the "CASH IN HAND TODAY" jobs, ei. residential. When we discovered OP, we opened our business up to all kinds of new marketing tecniques. Allow me to give some examples and for those who can be there, I will show you and prove to you that what I say is true on the 19th of November at Kleen Kuip. For those of you in the states Im sure John would have no problem coming out and showing you! Commercial Reasons for uping OP; Especially for heavily traveled businesses ei. hotel, restaurant, gym, daycare centers, etc. With drying time is under an hour (usually under half an hour) an area can be walked on almost immediatly. When carpets are dry this fast there is less worry for places that have tile next to carpet. No longer a need to keep those "caution wet floor" signs up for half a day. If the carpet is dry patrons are at no risk of slipping when they step off the carpet and on to tile. Therefore the owner is at no risk of being sued. LOL Also we have no hoses, very little noise and NO over bearing chemical smells. There is not chance for wickback because the carpet is clean, DRY and vaccumed before we leave. Op method cleans the whole carpet fiber by
No Shampoo or foaming cleanser is ever used. RESIDUE FREE this is important
NON TOXIC, TOTALLY FREE RINSING NON-RESIDUAL FORMULATION, BIOLOGICALLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE PRODUCTS. PET SAFE AND BABY SAFE!!!! These things make a difference in offices and HOMES. People want carpet that is soft and clean. They want to be able to lay on it, put their babies on it without worry. THEY WILL PAY MORE FOR THIS. This is what OPing offers. How often do you get customers that are so happy with the job that you have done that not only do they not cringe over the amount but they TIP you and happily refer your service to family and friends?? This is what we experience now a days. I remember doing a house where four girls (with long hair) three cats a dog and a father lived. the carpet, which Im certain was purchased white was now a shade of greyish blackish BLAH! After using HWA and rotary (this is before we had an OP machine) for what seemed like hours, trying to get the hair up I finally resorted to using a carpet brush on my hands and knees. We spent 4 grulling hours cleaning this mans house, we left with $150.00 and a feeling like the job was just not done. We no longer have days like this... With the oscillating Pad Machine Hair is no longer a challenge nor is dirt. and the day we redid that house we charged double and finished the job in half the time. I didn't have to brush out the hair the oscillation lifted it right out. The dirt was a breeze and there was very little residue (from prior cleanings) left. That Gentleman is a real estate agent, he never referred us before but since we cleaned his house with the OP we have had 14 jobs from his office, that was a month ago. hmmmm And just for the record, those who have continually posted about what hotels will and will not pay. Don't speak unless you know. Certain hotels that have been mentioned and it has been said that they will only pay under 10 cents per square foot well, WE have recently aquired their business and YES we are getting 38 cents per square foot. Another place that was mentioned ,they are a little bit stingier but after seeing the job we did are now paying us 30 cents per square foot. We also, as of this morning were hired to do their tile and grout. $1.00 per square foot and if we reseal it we'll be getting $2.00 per square foot. In the spring we plan on offering our concrete cleaning service aswell. As it stands right now we have our first BIG concrete cleaning job in an underground parking lot and we are being paid $75.00 PER PARKING SPACE God, what a life...ONE MACHINE DOES IT ALL!!! Well worth the $3000.00 investment. Wouldn't you say? WHEN YOU OFFER SOMETHING DIFFERENT ESPECIALLY IF IT WORKS, THEY WILL PAY! We went from charging $150.00 for a house and haggeling to no end with customers to being paid $600.00 to $700.00 a house PLUS Tips and numerous referrals. Need I say more... PAD DIVA NORTH
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MR. STEAMER ![]() True Patriot ![]() Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549 |
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I can hear the customers now......"thats it...thats all" and "what about the corners" and "how about the backs of my stairs" last one last one"will that clean this light kitchen rug" I also can hear the fuses popping everytime you stop and started again while moving furnitures around.. if OP was in my dreams...I'd be having a nightmare or I'd have to dream of commercial carpet.....btw I hate commercial carpets...lol |
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cleanex ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() Joined: 17/October/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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I hear you Doug, it is another tool that may take over in time. No doubt about the truckmount being best suited for your purpose. I have not used op cleaning in a residential setting as of to day, one of these days when we have a job when the homeowner is away I think I will try it and see if they know the difference when they return home.
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doug ![]() King of the One Liners ![]() Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711 |
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Don: If my market would support one I would have one. I don't have large commerical areas here in smallsville. Quite a bit of my residential is rural and I think my tm does fine and also for restorartion purposes Or as I say I would not hesitate to invest in one. Sort of like encap I just don't have the areas to justify. You may disagree, But I have to make do with something that can accomplish more than one functiion. I don't have the population you have. The highest building in my town is 4 floors an apartment building.
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cleanex ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() Joined: 17/October/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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But Doug would it not be great if it worked and we could ditch these God for saken truckmounts, they only break down when you are the busiest, never during the slow times We have an op machine and use it the malls when water and running hoses is a pain in the butt, never had a complaint about the cleaning, just how fast we get in and out of the job. |
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